he spoke in el paso, he said they need to pay tax. when he spoke today in las vegas, he said they need to pay tax. when he spoke in el paso, he said they will need to pay a penalty. when he spoke in el paso, he said they would need to pay a fine. so penalty changed to fine. but other than that, yeah, the whole diagnosis of the problem, the whole proposal for how to fix the problem, the economic and social argument for why we need to fix the problem is the exact same for president obama today as it was in 2011. and frankly, that it was before that from him. what has changed is his political assessment, that what he wanted for the country before but he could not get, now he is going to get. now it is possible. policy-wise, he has stayed in exactly the same place for all of this time. what has moved is the republicans. >> now the good news is that for the first time in many years, republicans and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. at this moment, it looks like there is a genuine desire to get this done soon. and that's